tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612942.post110502774059935370..comments2018-09-01T03:24:25.056-07:00Comments on JESUSISM AND THE JESUSIST WAY OF LIFE:: Adam and Original SinUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612942.post-15690514825762150182014-05-22T18:46:30.497-07:002014-05-22T18:46:30.497-07:00I was just wondering, if Jesus said that eternal l...I was just wondering, if Jesus said that eternal life (or life of ages, lovely put) was to know the only true God and Jesus himself then would it be too far fetched to think that God meant to say to Adam that in the day that he eats from that tree his concept and knowledge of God's identity will be replaced by a false identity and therefore he would not have the life of ages? (Satan, being a liar since the truth is not within him, told her that she would not die, but instead would be like God, knowing good and evil. If the truth is not within him, he knows nothing of God and therefore why do we build all our knowledge of God on what Satan said to Chava, or Eve if you must) <br /><br />Would that not explain why so many Christians get caught up with conflicting ideas about God, from being a vindictive despot that only cares about laws and obedience and tithes and punishment to the ideas of love compassion forgiveness and other concepts that do not fall within the spectrum of good and evil? <br /><br />Maybe the only sin (and I mean it in the sense of not hitting the target, not sin as in worthy of punishment and eternal damnation ) was that our concept of God was changed? <br /><br />About the so called curses, maybe they are all merely blessings, once we get to look past our own false concepts of God. I have heard that mothers call birthing pains, pain with reason. And men (and women) find fulfillment in working hard to provide for themselves and families. Maybe not one of these so called curses were new things, maybe they had always been just like that, we are just more aware? (Adam was to tend the garden, what point would be in tending anything that was just giving the best?) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612942.post-8225614951290968832013-07-04T15:27:44.276-07:002013-07-04T15:27:44.276-07:00I love that translation.. "Life of Ages"...I love that translation.. "Life of Ages" And your point about "being" is true and very well articulated. I recently told a friend that he didn't have to always be worried about what ministry or task or work, God wanted him to "do". That he should just "be" and enjoy "being" a son of God. And that anything he "does" should flow naturally from his "being." Thank you for sharing. Epiphanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03621955286185345700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612942.post-24824970970865383112013-06-06T06:15:08.358-07:002013-06-06T06:15:08.358-07:00I think "eternal life" is a bad translat...I think "eternal life" is a bad translation, it should be "life of ages" meaning a full life. I think of salvation now as "being" and not merely acknowledgement of a belief. The reason for this is that it is exactly what Jesus taught. For example, you could tell someone who smokes that it is bad for their health and they would agree and yet continue to smoke (knowledge), and yet no "being". <br /><br />ChristopherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612942.post-81395769137035478222008-01-19T08:00:00.000-08:002008-01-19T08:00:00.000-08:00Sorry I've been away for so long. But now I'm back...Sorry I've been away for so long. But now I'm back. I recall Jesus being asked about eternal life on a few occasions. (Matt. 19:16, MArk 10:17,Luke 10:25, Luke 18:18) I always read that Jesus' answer was that eternal life was linked to the works we do. Namely keeping the commandments. That's a long way away from the "saved by grace" philosophy that is often taught today in churches.Epiphanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03621955286185345700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612942.post-1124759982604575412005-08-22T18:19:00.000-07:002005-08-22T18:19:00.000-07:00Cool - You are the first person besides myself to ...Cool - You are the first person besides myself to realize that Genesis never referred to Adam or Eve as sinners. The only reference I have been able to find to Adam's sin is in the verse in Roman's to which you referred. But later, I think it is one of the Timothy's, the author (ostensibly Paul, but mist scholars don't think so) says it wasn't the man, it was the woman.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I found this site because I have been referring to myself as a Jesusist for years. I enjoy finding others, and I enjoy the fact that our reasons appear to be similar.<BR/><BR/>Here is a question: What did Jesus answer in response to the question "How do I inherit eternal life." He is asked more than once (I found it four times) and I don't believe His answer to be the same as what most churches teach. What do you think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com